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Wednesday, May 16, 2007

Exclusive interview with Dhirendra Kumar, CEO, Value Research Online:

Q. Does SIP give you same benefit through market ups and downs?

A. If you invest lump sum in a market, you generally have a harrowing time managing anxiety levels when the market shakes. If you invest methodically and invest over a long time on a regular basis, you can start with a small amount. It also helps investor remain focused.

Q. Should one go for existing or new fund when one invests in mutual fund through SIP? While only existing funds allowed SIP earlier, new funds have now started giving the option of SIP from start.

A. My advice is to go for existing funds, which have been tried and tested. Although track record doesn't mean much to investors, performance of the fund can be taken into account while choosing a fund. To make money from equity, you choose a good fund. As new fund doesn't guarantee good performance, it is better you go for an old fund. At least it is easy to know track record of an old fund.

Q. Subscription limit of SIPs has been brought down from a minimum of Rs 500 to Rs 50 per month by the mutual fund companies. What kind of value should an investor expect when he or she invests a small amount?

A. One should not look at it in terms of value. In fact, SIP has democratised mutual funds. Earlier not everybody could afford to invest in mutual funds. Now everyone can participate in the market. When you invest in micro SIP, your focus will not be on daily returns and you are likely to get good returns in four to five years. Until now the mutual funds have been viewed as an opportunistic investment, but with the launch of micro SIP, investors will see it as a medium of small saving also.

Q. Should one invest in SIP when the Sensex is moving up?


A. SIP is for those who get bothered with the share market ups and downs and therefore are not able to start investment in the market. I suggest don't bother about market ups and downs and invest regularly and select a good fund.

Q. What is the impact on the SIP returns of the falling NAVs of the mutual funds when the market goes down? Is the magnitude of the impact on the SIPs same as that on the lump sum investment in mutual funds?

A. When the market falls, the NAV or value of the mutual fund also comes down. But for SIP investor, it is a good medium of anxiety management. For regular investors, it is good in the sense that they can buy at lower rates when the market is at a low. However, it is not so good if you have to withdraw money in next two months and the market falls just around that time. So it is important to plan your withdrawals.

Q. What is the difference between micro SIPs and SIPs?

A. If one withdraws money from SIPs of small amounts (micro SIPs), one has to pay an exit load of 3 to 4 per cent. I think it is good in a way because it prevents investors from withdrawing money early and therefore from losing on the benefits. However, there is no compromise on liquidity as you can withdraw money at any time. So on paying an exit load, one can always withdraw money from the SIP. I don't think it is a big deterrent.

Q. When does the SIP become free from capital gains tax? Is there no capital gains tax in mutual funds after one year?

A. Same tax laws that apply to equity investments, apply here too. Unless your investment is one-year old, you have to pay 10% capital gains tax on the investment. So you have to give tax on the gains from new investments and not on the old ones.

In order to free your investment in one-year SIP from capital gains tax, one has to give it two years so that the last installment of the investment also becomes tax-free. In nutshell, all units from investment in SIPs will become free from capital gains tax after one year of investment. So your entire money will become tax free if you stay in it for two years.

Q. I want to invest Rs 2,000 in mutual funds through SIP. Where should I invest keeping in mind my target of Rs 25 lakh for a 20-year period?

A. Don't get bogged down by ups and downs of the market and stay focused. Review all your investments after one or two years. HDFC's equity, Franklin's Prima Plus, Reliance Vision fund, Prudential Power Fund are among good equity funds. If you have to invest for ten years at the end of which you require 25 lakh, put in at least Rs 3,000 to Rs 5,000 through SIP. However, there is no guarantee that you will get this amount.

Q. I want to invest Rs 5,000 in a mutual fund but prefer to have more than one fund instead of putting all the money in a single fund. Is it a good decision or should I diversify amongst many funds?

A. Though it is a good decision to diversify, don't go for sectoral and thematic funds. Choose two good diversified equity funds and put in 2,000 each and third could be a good mid cap fund in which you can invest Rs 1,000. Don't invest in one fund family.

As far as achieving adequate diversification is concerned, choose three to five funds and not beyond it. here you can also benefit from the expertise of different fund managers.

Q. I want to invest in Magnum Tax saver for three years through SIP. At the time of redemption, can I withdraw money every month like in case of SIP or I have to withdraw the entire amount after three year? And when should one sell mutual fund?

A. There should be only two reasons for selling a mutual fund -- either when you need money or when you are not happy with its performance. However, don't sell a fund if it has under performed for two to three months. However, you can regularly sell it.

Magnum Tax saver is a good fund, an aggressive one. It has performed very well in the past 3-4 years. If you invest regularly and withdraw the money once it is three year old.

Q. What should be the ideal time for starting an SIP?

A. It depends on the kind of time horizon you have. But you should stay invested for at least three years and further keep it for one to two years in order to take its full benefit. You may not experience full market cycle in a time less than that.

Is Risk eating into your portfolio?

Recently I saw a poster of a movie named “Gafla”…The tag line of this movie read, “ The biggest risk in life is not taking one”. According to me “The biggest risk in life is taking one but believing you have not taken any” or “taking one but not understanding the consequences of your decision”.
Too often we focus on the wrong set of parameters such as oil prices, stock prices, interest rates when it comes to making equity investments. People spend countless hours watching Business channels, reading magazines for hot tips, tracking the unknowns but there is hardly any time spent on the knowns, which is solely in your control.
I have shared some of the UNKNOWNS that we so often focus on and the KNOWNS that we ignore most of the time.

UNKNOWNS (This is NOT in anyone’s control)
  • Sensex and Nifty Behavior
  • Stock Prices
  • Oil Prices
  • Interest Rates
  • Inflation
  • Tax Laws & Regulations
  • Geo Political Risks


KNOWNS (This surely is in your control)

  • My Needs and Goals
  • What is my time horizon?
  • What is it I want to achieve in Life?
  • How do I react to different things including Stock Market Ups and Downs?


In fact when it comes to investing, to be a winner, one must make as fewer costly mistakes as possible. A lot of people like to believe that they are better-blessed souls of our century who do not make mistakes. There is no one in the world of investing who has not made a mistake. The key point is to understand how to a costly mistakes. Getting back to my point, Understanding and Managing Risks are the most important parts of the investing process. Take too much Risk and you might jeopardize your financial future with huge losses. Take too little and you jeopardize your financial future with low returns barely enough to cover your lifestyle expenses.

So how do you determine how much risks you should take and are you taking enough?


First determine what returns you reasonably need to achieve your financial goals (Assuming that you know what your goals are). So if you need a 10 % return, why should you opt for some exotic thing like a derivative or trade like a maniac! I met a person recently who tracks the market day in and day out, devours every investment magazine and finally when the stock market closes, switches to the commodity market. Guess how well his portfolio is doing. From a value of Rs. 4 Crore it has come down to 2.8 Crore most of which I would attribute to a pinch of foolishness (with due respect) and a dash of arrogance. Second step is to figure out whether you are getting those returns consistently. Knowing your benchmark can help you a taking more risk than necessary.

One of the investors that I know who believed that what has worked in the recent past will surely work for him again made an aggressive investment in F&O in May. But later, this is what he had to say “I had made 50 % returns in just 15 days but now I have lost 200% because of the leverage” said one investor. I will never invest in the stock market again”. This is a common response like the one from jilted lovers who say “I will never fall in love again”. Well I better not comment on the love factor but one thing I know for sure is that this mistake of not understanding the nature of the investment and completely blaming the asset class altogether does far more damage than anything else. At the end of the day “Failure is an opportunity to begin again more intelligently”. I have used an anecdote from the book the Intelligent Investor by Benjamin Graham that sums up my point “I once interviewed a group of retirees in BOCA RATON, one of Florida’s wealthiest retirement communities. I asked these people mostly in their seventies – if they had beaten the market over their investing lifetimes. Some said yes, some said no; most weren’t sure. Then one man said, “Who cares? All I know is, my investments earned enough for me to end up in BOCA”. Could there be a more perfect answer. After all the whole point of investing is not to earn more money than average, but to earn enough money to meet your own needs. As Ben Graham says “The best way to measure your financial success is not by whether you are beating the market but by whether you have put together a Financial Plan and a Behavioral Discipline that are likely to get you where you want to go”.
In the end what matters isn’t crossing the finishing line before anybody else but just making sure you do cross it.

Now how do you figure you are taking too much risks. 3 Simple questions might help.

  1. Have I lost sleep during the May crash or in general after making the investments?
  2. Do I feel pressurized to watch stock prices, fund NAVs weekly or daily?
  3. Do the UNKNOWNs given above worry me about my financial future?

If you have answered yes to either of the above 3 questions, you have taken more risk than you can digest.


If you answered yes to all the above, then like the kiddy line “it’s time to put your toys away” - it is time to put some of your stocks/equity funds away. As F Scott Fitzgerald said, “If you don’t know who you are, the stock market can be an expensive place to find out”.

Dreaming big can make you rich. Know how

There is a proverb which says, "If you want your dreams to come true, don't sleep'. In reality most of us dream big and then go to sleep. We dream of creating wealth, we dream of luxuries in life we want lots of riches but unfortunately we do not stay awake to plan for those dreams and make them reality , we just daydream about them. There is difference between dreaming and daydreaming. Someone who dreams has desires, aspirations, ambitions etc. On the other hand a daydreamer only builds castles in the air.

First step to realize any dream is to crystallize it. It is not good enough to say I want luxury car. It is important to be specific , I need luxury car worth Rs 10 lakh after 6 years. Similarly, do not have it in the ‘back of your mind’ to save money for your son’s marriage. List it down. Clearly state how much funds you wish to spend on your son’s marriage. Also note down approximately after how many years he is likely to get married. In case of marriage it is difficult to gauge exact age when marriage will take place but we can always have a ballpark number of years after which marriage will take place.
Having crystallized dreams next step is to create reserve for those other events that can upset our plans to reach those dreams. Events like job loss, temporary migration due to natural catastrophe etc. Suppose if we have not made provision for these events and if they occur then they will deplete funds, which has been created for our dreams. Job loss, temporary migration etc. are events for which no formal insurance is available. Therefore set aside contingency reserve.
After creating contingency reserve, we should evaluate our existing insurance. First verify whether we have sufficient health insurance because if we have ignored health insurance for family while saving for our long-term goal and suddenly someone from the family falls ill, we will erode our savings, which was initially being set for our dreams. After obtaining sufficient health insurance we should also focus on disability and life insurance. Lastly, protect our property ; our house, car, jewelry etc. by buying relevant insurance.
After we have ensured that there are sufficient provisions to withstand perils that may cross us, while we are moving ahead in our journey to reach our dreams, we should move to savings and investing.
Do you know the biggest hurdle, which stops us from saving sufficient amount for our dreams? "OURSELVES." Our habits of procrastinating and spending are the biggest barricades in making us reach our goals.
Sooner we start walking on our path to reach dream destination, by regularly saving and investing, faster we will reach. We should not procrastinate. Also stay focused on to our dreams. If we lose focus, we will start utilizing our hard earned money into other unnecessary expenses and not realize our dreams.
Don’t just dream about future, plan for it. Remember famous saying "If you fail to plan, you plan to fail."

Market closes with hefty gains: Media, bank stocks up

It was a good close for markets as they ended with some hefty gains. The markets opened flat and was trading in a tight range throughout but gained momentum during the final hour of trade. Asian cues were not very not exciting as most of the Asian markets ended flat.
Outperforming the frontline indices were the broader markets i.e. the midacp and smallcap indices. The market breadth has been in favour of the advancesa and the turnover also picked up in the final hour of day. Banking, whether midcap or smallcap showed leadership. Also media stocks were on fire and even some construction and real estate stocks closed higher. Except for IT, all the BSE sector indices closed in green.
Sensex closed up 197.98 points or 1.42% at 14127.31, and the Nifty up 50.65 points or 1.23% at 4170.95.
About 1586 shares have advanced, 971 shares declined, and 67 shares are unchanged.
The BSE Midcap Index ended at 6,041.33 up 86 points or 1.44%.
The BSE Smallcap Index ended at 7,205.96 up 103 points or 1.45%.
The BSE Bankex was up 3.1% at 7,413.32. Oriental Bank, SBI, ICICI Bank and Andhra Bank moved upwards.
The BSE Capital Goods Index was up 1.5% at 10,082.93. Alfa Laval, Gammon India, BHEL, KEC Infrastructure and SKF India closed higher.
The BSE Health Care Index was up 0.2% at 3,721.93. Wyeth, Matrix Lab, FDC, Glenmark and Nicholas Pirama closed higher.
The BSE Auto Index closed at 5,045.10 up 1%. Amtek Auto, Tube Investment, Tata Motors, Exide Industries and Bajaj Auto surged.
The BSE Metal Index closed at 10,325.26 up 0.7%. Guj NRE Coke, Hindalco, Mah Seamless and Welspun Guj advanced higher.
The BSE FMCG Index gained 1.2% at 1,838.68. United Spirits, HLL, P&G and Shaw Wallace closed higher.
BSE Oil and Gas Index closed higher at 7,401.56 up 1.5%. IOC, Reliance, Petronet LNG and Reliance Naturalended in green.
The BSE IT Index lost 0.5% at 4,847.07. Hexaware Tech, Mphasis, Infosys and TCS closed lower.
The NSE cash turnover was at Rs 10668.92 crore and the NSE F&O turnover was at Rs 32810.52 crore. The BSE cash turnover was Rs 5157.33 crore. Total market wide turnover was at Rs 48636.77 crore.
Markets in green: SBI, Hindalco top gainers
The markets have gained momentum and have moved upwards. At 15.04 pm IST, the Sensex is up 160.63 points or 1.15% at 14089.96, and the Nifty up 52.25 points or 1.27% at 4172.55.
About 1549 shares have advanced, 976 shares declined, and 81 shares are unchanged.
Top gainers on the indices are SBI, Hindalco, HDFC Bank, Reliance Comm and HLL.
Top losers on the Sensex are Hero Honda, HPCL, Infosys, BPCL and TCS.
Index heavyweight Hindustan Lever was trading at Rs 196.60 up 1.81% from its previous close of Rs 193.10.
Index heavyweight Reliance was trading at Rs 1,628.05 up 1.89% from its previous close of Rs 1,597.85.
Tech major Infosys was trading at Rs 1,951.90 down 1.05% from its previous close of Rs 1,972.55.
Cigarette major ITC was trading at Rs 162.85 up 0.56% from its previous close of Rs 161.95.
Refinery major HPCL was trading at Rs 295.00 down 2.33% from its previous close of Rs 302.05.
Markets in green: SBI, Hindalco top gainers
The markets have gained some ground and are trading in green with moderate gains. Midcap and smallcap indices have outperformed the frontline indices.
At 14.17 pm IST, the Sensex is up 62.57 points or 0.45% at 13991.9, and the Nifty up 17.50 points or 0.42% at 4137.8.
About 1498 shares have advanced, 982 shares declined, and 81 shares are unchanged.
Top gainers on the indices are SBI, Hindalco, HDFC Bank, Reliance Comm and HLL.
Top losers on the Sensex are Hero Honda, HPCL, Infosys, BPCL and TCS.
Index heavyweight Hindustan Lever was trading at Rs 196.15 up 1.58% from its previous close of Rs 193.10.
Index heavyweight Reliance was trading at Rs 1,610.05 up 0.76% from its previous close of Rs 1,597.85.
Tech major Infosys was trading at Rs 1,939.80 down 1.66% from its previous close of Rs 1,972.55.
Cigarette major ITC was trading at Rs 161.30 down 0.4% from its previous close of Rs 161.95.
Refinery major HPCL was trading at Rs 294.75 down 2.42% from its previous close of Rs 302.05.
Market trades flat; midcaps outperform frontline indices
The markets have given up their gains and are trading flat. Midcap and smallcap indices have outperformed the frontline indices.
At 13.27 pm IST, the Sensex is up 25.67 points or 0.18% at 13955, and the Nifty down 6.80 points or 0.17% at 4113.5.
About 1474 shares have advanced, 943 shares declined, and 92 shares are unchanged.
Top gainers on the indices are SBI, HDFC Bank, Reliance Comm and HLL.
Top losers on the Sensex are Hero Honda, HPCL, Infosys, BPCL and TCS.
Index heavyweight Hindustan Lever was trading at Rs 195.40 up 1.19% from its previous close of Rs 193.10.
Index heavyweight Reliance was trading at Rs 1,602.50 up 0.29% from its previous close of Rs 1,597.85.
Tech major Infosys was trading at Rs 1,941.55 down 1.57% from its previous close of Rs 1,972.55.
Cigarette major ITC was trading at Rs 161.30 down 0.4% from its previous close of Rs 161.95.
Refinery major HPCL was trading at Rs 296.95 down 1.69% from its previous close of Rs 302.05.
Mkt trades steady; midcaps outperform frontline indices
The markets are steady trading with moderate gains on selective buying seen in index pivotals. Midcap and smallcap indices have outperformed the frontline indices. Except for BSE IT, all other sector indices are trading in green. Buying interest is seen in select bank, FMCG and metal stocks.
At 12.45 pm IST, the Sensex is up 60.91 points or 0.44% at 13990.24, and the Nifty up 8.10 points or 0.20% at 4128.4.
About 1530 shares have advanced, 825 shares declined, and 78 shares are unchanged.
Top gainers on the indices are SBI, HDFC Bank, Reliance Comm and HLL.
Top losers on the Sensex are Hero Honda, HPCL, Infosys, BPCL and TCS.
Index heavyweight Hindustan Lever was trading at Rs 195.70 up 1.35% from its previous close of Rs 193.10.
Index heavyweight Reliance was trading at Rs 1,606.00 up 0.51% from its previous close of Rs 1,597.85.
Tech major Infosys was trading at Rs 1,951.00 down 1.09% from its previous close of Rs 1,972.55.
Cigarette major ITC was trading at Rs 161.40 down 0.34% from its previous close of Rs 161.95.
Refinery major HPCL was trading at Rs 295.20 down 2.27% from its previous close of Rs 302.05.
Market trades with moderate gains: Bank stocks up
The market is trading in green with moderate gains on account of buying seen in select bank, FMCG and metal stocks.
At 11.37 am IST, the Sensex is up 76.40 points or 0.55% at 14005.73, and the Nifty up 15.95 points or 0.39% at 4136.25.
About 1436 shares have advanced, 709 shares declined, and 73 shares are unchanged.
Top gainers on the indices are SBI up 3.12%, Reliance Comm up 2.04% and HLL up 1.86%
Top losers on the Sensex are Hero Honda down 2.84%, Infosys down 0.79% and TCS down 0.7%
Top losers on the Nifty are HPCL down 2.58% and BPCL down 23%.
Index heavyweight Hindustan Lever was trading at Rs 196.50 up 1.76% from its previous close of Rs 193.10.
Index heavyweight Reliance was trading at Rs 1,609.60 up 0.74% from its previous close of Rs 1,597.85.
Tech major Infosys was trading at Rs 1,957.00 down 0.79% from its previous close of Rs 1,972.55.
Cigarette major ITC was trading at Rs 162.15 up 0.12% from its previous close of Rs 161.95.
Refinery major HPCL was trading at Rs 294.55 down 2.48% from its previous close of Rs 302.05.
Markets trading flat: IT stocks continue to lag
The markets are trading flat after losing some of its morning gains. All the key indices are in green except It index. Banking, consumer durables and oil & gas index are in focus today and the market breadth is impressive.
At 10.41 am IST, the Sensex is up 58.80 points or 0.42% at 13988.13, and the Nifty up 13.05 points or 0.32% at 4133.35. About 1259 shares have advanced, 569 shares declined, and 62 shares are unchanged.
Top gainers on the Sensex are Dr Reddys Labs at Rs 669.60 up 1.85%, BHEL at Rs 2,561 up 1.67% and SBI at Rs 1,245.70 up 1.55%.
Top losers on the Sensex are Hero Honda at Rs 689 down 1.26%, Infosys at Rs 1,956.55 down 0.81% and TCS at Rs 1,228.80 down 0.63%.
Index heavyweight Hindustan Lever was trading at Rs 193.80 up 0.36% from its previous close of Rs 193.10.
Index heavyweight Reliance was trading at Rs 1,608.10 up 0.64% from its previous close of Rs 1,597.85.
Tech major Infosys was trading at Rs 1,956.00 down 0.84% from its previous close of Rs 1,972.55.
Cigarette major ITC was trading at Rs 161.85 down 0.06% from its previous close of Rs 161.95.
Refinery major HPCL was trading at Rs 295.70 down 2.1% from its previous close of Rs 302.05.
Markets @ 9:56 am
Mkts open with modest gap up: SBI, RIL, Infy up
The markets opened with modest gap up today on account of some buying seen in the sensex heavyweights like SBI, Reliance, ONGC and Infosys. The Asian markets were trading mixed today. Market breadth was seen positive.
At 9:56 am, Sensex was up 80 points at 14009 and Nifty was up 20 points at 4140. Major gainers in the opening trade were Rel Comm, Reliance, SBI, BHEL, Infosys, ONGC, Bajaj Auto and Satyam Computers. However, Tata Steel, Dr. Reddy's labs and ACC were trading soft.
Asian markets:
Asian markets were trading mixed. Japan's Nikkei slipped 0.23% or 40.40 points at 17,472.58, Hong Kong's Hang Seng declined 0.12% or 24.10 points at 20,844.05. However, Taiwan's Taiwan Weighted was up 0.14% or 10.82 points at 7,985.85, South Korea's Seoul Composite gained 0.22% or 3.5 points at 1,592.87 and Singapore's Straits Times was flat at 3,474.19
Market cues:

FIIs net buy USD 14.4 million in equity on May 14
NSE F&O Open Interest up by Rs 921 crore (Rs 9.21 billion) at Rs 55,541 crore (Rs 555.41 billion)
F&O cues:
Futures Open Interest up by Rs 513 crore (Rs 5.13 billion); Options Open Interest up by Rs 408 crore (Rs 4.08 billion)
Nifty Futures shed 6.3 lakh shares in Open Interest
Nifty Futures at 10-point premium
Nifty Open Int Put-Call ratio up to 1.19 from 1.18
Nifty Calls add 1.8 lakh shares in Open Interest
Nifty Puts add 3.4 lakh shares in Open Interest
Nifty 4150 & 4250 Calls & 4000 Put add significant Open Interest